Offender Employment

Re: Sex Offender Employment

Dave Koch — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 05:47:08 GMT

BINGO !!! That is the number one key to success. Never quit. You're going to be fine.

Re: Sex Offender Employment

mkemp3858 — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:10:19 GMT

Thank you Dave for the assuring words. I will never offend again, I know some do. I will keep plugging away at that one yes though, for some reason I don't ever seem to just give up.

Re: Sex Offender Employment

Dave Koch — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:07:34 GMT

First, congratulations on the success you have had to date. Achievement, success and life in general are not linear processes. No one’s life is a straight line from low to high. You’ve made tremendous upward progress, but are now experiencing an adjustment. Fasten your seatbelt and hang on – it will go back up. You are right now at the point in your evolution where many people recidivate. We work so hard for years, making great progress and then get kicked in the teeth. It is those times when we tend to only focus on our present situation and feel like it has all been for naught. I’ve bitten the floor so many times that I’ve developed a taste for linoleum. However, when examining the picture in its entirety, the trend has been upward, with a plethora of deviations and potholes. Just keep plugging. The no’s don’t matter – you’re just looking for one yes. Go pick up your little baby and promise her a college education – then just go do whatever it takes to keep that promise. Hang in there – really, life is just cyclic.

Re: Sex Offender Employment

mkemp3858 — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:12:33 GMT

Some interesting reading on this topic. As a rso in Massachusetts I am finding it impossible to get work. One msg I read announced the problem, background checks. I am a well educated, white male, live with my gf who just gave birth to our beautiful daughter. I got laid off from a job I had for over a yr because of lack of work and the fact that I got a herniated disc in my back. The injury happened in May 2009. About a month and a half ago I started looking for employment. It has been a very difficult challenge, not only to get a job but also to stay upbeat and positive. This is an absolute nightmare with no end in sight. I don't believe I will ever find a job. Frustration is just one of the many emotions felt on a daily basis. Slowly I am losing everything I worked so hard to regain after my release. I was released from prison about 2 and a half yrs ago, got lucky finding the job I had and worked my butt off rebuilding my life. Now all that is being taken away from me. There is no solution to the problem, society wants us to go away and that is exactly what is happening. I read that many so's are living underground. As long as we are not in the public's view the majority are ignorant and prefer to stay that way. The whole I can't see it so it isn't there reasoning. I suppose I could rant for quite awhile on this subject seeing that I live it everyday but I won't.

Re: Sex Offender Employment

bombora — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:32:42 GMT

John most state's will have a program that can help, your parole officer should be able to assist you as will with getting in touch with these. - Zac http://www.wowhaxor.com

Re: Sex Offender Employment

Johnny Rehder — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:09:43 GMT

Hello Matthew, I've got a question for you, Have you ever heard of the SECOND CHANCE ACT OF 2007? If you have can I get you to break It down in a language that a layman can understand or an RSO can...... I've been out on parole for 11 months now,no job and no chance of getting one anytime soon. I'm willing to take that job nobody else want's but I can't find it yet,any suggestions? Thanks for your help, John Rehder

Re: Sex Offender Employment

Dave Koch — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:37:25 GMT

Asher -- I have not closely followed sex offender legislation, and my personal knowledge is subject to the sensationalized stories in the media. These stories range from a high school senior labeled as a sex offender because he streaked the graduation ceremony, to the individual a couple of years ago who had a couple of dozen offenses when he abducted and killed a little girl. The sex offender registry probably does serve a good purpose, however there may have been some panic influencing legislation, and in some cases, the label is applied too liberally. I agree that there should be an examination of the current guidelines, and I would have an interest in participating... - Dave

Re: Sex Offender Employment

Dave Koch — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:22:00 GMT

I'm traveling until September 1st. If you give me a call or send an eMail after Sept 1st, I'll eMail a copy to you in Word. Contact info in my profile...

Re: Sex Offender Employment

concerned_employer — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:42:36 GMT

Dave, I do not have an employee manual and would like to take you up on your offer to borrow a copy of yours to adapt. As an update to my previous post, I have not disclosed to my clients or my other employees. I did have a long talk with the person I hired and am comfortable in my decision to keep him. As of this date, he's succeeding beyond what I had expected, clients like him, he's responsible, and I believe that he will be an asset. I also think that now that he knows that I know, we have a better relationship than we would have had, had he been still wondering if I'd ever find out.

Re: Sex Offender Employment

Dave Koch — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:53:59 GMT

The existence of a felony conviction does have a certain amount of collateral damage. Regardless of the particulars of a conviction, clearly, offenders are held to a higher standard and need to rise to the occasion. A major key to finding that first employment opportunity is to be wiling to accept the job that no one else wants. That first job is temporary, and it provides an individual with the opportunity to prove to an employer that they are an asset and not a liability. I really commend “Concerned Employer” for the position you have taken with regard to keeping your employee. I also understand your concerns as an employer. You obviously understand that the past does not equal the future. I doubt that there is a need to disclose the conviction to your entire staff. If you have an employee manual, you can certainly include language regarding non-discrimination that would include language similar to the following. If you don’t have an employee manual, contact me and I’ll send you a copy of mine that you can modify. practices a policy of non-discrimination, and does not practice any intentional favoritism or indifference to any person based on age, citizenship, color, creed, physical or mental disability (including HIV status), ethnicity, family responsibilities, gender identity and expression, marital status, matriculation, national origin, physical appearance, race, religion, political affiliation, sex, sexual orientation, union membership, veteran status, socioeconomic class, education, profession, criminal history or other unlawful factors. Just to emphasize, a person with a conviction needs to be willing to accept the job that no one else wants as his or her first opportunity. -Dave

Re: Sex Offender Employment

Twiggs50 — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 13:52:21 GMT

My son was just released from prison in June here in Minnesota after 7 months, and of course his employer won't hire him back, and he's having a terrible time finding a job. He's applied at the local factories and never hears anything back, and he applied at Staples, and they called him but when he mentioned his felony, they dropped him like a hot potato. Who in MN hires sex offenders? he's a level I, his crime being consentual sex with a minor and the mother filing a complaint. I'd appreciate any help, because I'm beginning to worry about him getting very depressed and just giving up.

Re: Sex Offender Employment

concerned_employer — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:03:42 GMT

Thank you Betty Jenne. I found the article and have found another resource through it that I can contact. I really appreciate your posting.

Re: Sex Offender Employment

Betty J. Jenne — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:55:35 GMT

I found this article online: It might help since it concerns Michigan. Full disclosure: the law requiring sex offenders to register their presence in a community can present HR with complex--but manageable--retention issues. Publication: HRMagazine Publication Date: 01-SEP-07 Format: Online Delivery: Immediate Online Access Full Article Title: Full disclosure: the law requiring sex offenders to register their presence in a community can present HR with complex--but manageable--retention issues.

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Re: Sex Offender Employment

concerned_employer — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:02:21 GMT

I am in Michigan and just found out Wednesday night that the guy I hired Wednesday morning is on our Sex Offender's list. After much thought and after speaking with him about this I have decided to keep him employed. One of my concerns, is what, as an employer, am I required to disclose to my clients and other employees? Can anyone help me with this?

Re: Sex Offender Employment

Joshua — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:39:43 GMT

Hi Tnet, Could you and I talk? I would like to get something started , here in Texas.