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Last post 09-26-2007 3:02 PM by okiedavidk. 4 replies.
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  • Miranda warnings
    01-11-2007 9:45 AM
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    Kansas probation officers have recently had a couple of problems arise because they did not give Miranda warnings to probation clients, when in the judgement of the prosecutor or defense attorney they should have.

    In your jurisdiction, do you ever give Miranda warnings to offenders on probation?  If so, under what circumstances?

  • Re: Miranda warnings
    02-06-2007 6:17 PM
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    We have never been told definately yes or no on this issue in NC.  It's a true wonder that it's not come up in our courts because we ordinarily do not Mirandize.  I've never seen any PPO's do it and I've been around for a while.

    Kelly, NC DOC, Div. of Community Corrections

  • Re: Miranda warnings
    09-06-2007 5:03 PM
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    • Aaron Hartman

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    It has been highly suggested in Or.  I am currently developing a policy on when it should be done.  The current thought being it should only be required if there is some posibility of a new crime being charged.  It will be difficult to change old habits.

    Aaron Hartman
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    Malheur County Community Corrections
  • Re: Miranda warnings
    09-12-2007 9:54 AM
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    • NHComCor

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    As a NH Probation/Parole Officer, I do not recall any specific training in Miranda, nor a policy or procedure on point.  As a police officer before becoming a PPO, I did receive specific training, so I had an advantage in dealing with this, and it was a topic of conversation with co-workers.  It comes up in both routine work, response to police information, and PSI’s.

     

    Miranda warnings require that the suspect be in custody, that he/she is being questioned (interrogation) about specific criminal activity in which the client is a suspect.

     

    NH probation/parole rules require clients to answer questions truthfully.  Failure to do so can result in revocation.  U.S. v. Rea talks about Miranda warnings defeating the purpose of the probation/parole system.

     

    Most meetings between clients and officers are informal meetings at the probation office or client’s home, place of work, etc. and are not custodial settings.  Minnesota V Murphy speaks to this issue.

     

    Problems arise when the PPO receives information from the police, or when the PPO’s purpose is to investigate a client to collect information for a criminal charge.  In State v. Lekas, (Kansas), the parole officers where investigating a felony committed by a parolee. The information obtained was to be used in a criminal trial.  This would make the parole officer an agent of the police and the custody of the parolee custodial for the purpose of interrogation, triggering the need for Miranda.

     

    In my career, when police were seeking a client with information about new crimes, I would assist in finding the client, let the police do the interrogation, observe, and take action with the purpose of enforcing the rules of probation or parole.    I would always assume that once a client was in the custody of the police, Miranda applied.  I never gave Miranda rights to a client because I never tried to investigate for the purpose of criminal prosecution. 

     

    That of course leaves the question of surprise information, such as a client meeting with a PPO and revealing information that is criminal, for instance, confessing to a rape, or murder.  Custody again is the issue here, and the “confession” is probably admissible.  State v. Roberts in Washington involves a telephone confession and Marcum v State in Texas involves a polygraph examination.  You might find Roberts vs. United States interesting.

     

    Finally, there is the issue of judgments of the prosecutor and the defense attorney.  One has to listen to and conform to the direction of someone in their chain of command.  But, only the judge’s judgment counts.  The rest could just be politics.

     

    B. Drown
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  • Re: Miranda warnings
    09-26-2007 3:02 PM
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    My concern would be whatever jurisdiction you are in it is best to always Mirandarize. Anymore it seems there are many loopholes now days, be safe than sorry.

     

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